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Why we never go off topicPosted by Gareth McCaughan on 2005-02-12 "Quasin" wrote: > Besides, it's not religious per se. Totally off topic, mostly. You > guys NEVER go off topic, right? :) Well, of course not. I mean, going off topic would be like taking a wrong turning on the road, like I did once and ended up making an hour-long detour late at night on my bicycle. That was after a concert I'd been singing in -- a Christmas concert, whose biggest item was a rather nice piece by Gerald Finzi called "In terra pax". It's a setting of a poem by Robert Bridges, which quotes from Luke's nativity narrative. Some Christians seem to regard Luke as the most trustworthy of the evangelists, but he always gives me the impression of being a bit too credulous, a bit too willing to accept what any of his sources have told him. But then I'm rather a cynic, and maybe cynicism isn't a good attribute for a Christian to have. I suppose it all depends on your view of human nature; though perhaps it's odd that cynicism concerning the authors of the Bible is most strongly decried by the same people who are most likely to talk about the depravity of people generally, namely the Calvinists. After all, "total depravity" is one of the famous "Five Points". It's only just occurred to me that the mnemonic "TULIP" for those five points must be partly the result of the fact that the Synod of Dort took place in Holland, the home of tulip-mania. There's a very nice short account of the great tulip bubble in Michael Pollan's book "The botany of desire", which describes the interesting influences plant biology and human culture have had on one another by looking at a few examples, such as tulips and marijuana (hmm, another Dutch connection) and potatoes. It turns out that McDonalds will -- or at least would, at the time of writing -- use only one particular kind of potato to make their french fries. Or "freedom fries", as I understand they have to be called now in the USA. Apparently the proud French tradition of liberty, and the close connections between the French and American revolutions, are of no importance compared to the ghastly treasonous behaviour of the French in not backing Bush's illicit and immoral war against Iraq. I think the real problem is that France is (from Bush's perspective) terribly left-wing, and in the USA these days relations between left and right have degenerated almost to the point of outright hatred, at least in some circles. For instance, a lot of right-wing commentators in the USA are (apparently seriously) suggesting that everyone on the left wants to destroy the USA and is in league with Islamic terrorists to achieve that aim. Insane. Apparently it never occurs to them that violent conservative religious extremists might not in fact be natural allies for lefties. It's a pity that Islam tends to get seen only in terms of its extremists; it would be interesting to know whether something similar is true of Christianity in (say) Hindu or Muslim countries. Being part of a powerless minority sometimes leads to extremism and even violence, of course, which makes it impressive that the earliest Christians don't seem to have gone down that road. I suppose that's because there's so much near- (or outright?) pacifism right at the beginning of Christianity. I take it that when Jesus said that he came to bring "not peace but a sword" he was speaking figuratively and referring to the controversy that there would inevitably be over his teaching. Interesting, then, that the conversions recorded in Acts mostly seem to be of whole families. This, of course, offers the strongest argument in favour of the baptism of infants: that arguably something similar was done in the very earliest days. But the NT texts in question aren't explicit about infants being baptized, so this is really an argument from silence. Arguments from silence aren't always as weak as is sometimes supposed, of course; it's basically down to Bayes' theorem, just like every other sort of inference. The key question is how unlikely it is that the author would have been silent had there been any grounds for not being. To establish that, you might need to look at all sorts of apparently irrelevant things, like the social context and the prevailing literary conventions. Usually, though, what's apparently irrelevant really *is* irrelevant, and should therefore be avoided. And that's why we never go off topic. |
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